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AZJetfan
10-09-2010, 10:35 PM
Hello Ladies and Gentleman. Just here to get you opinions on the upcoming game. I am not a trash talker nor will I be disrespectfull. I would like to see how you think we match up. Thoughts?

1hotchev
10-09-2010, 10:53 PM
I do believe it's pretty much desperation time for the Vikes. Moss is still great, but it could be a bandaid on a bigger problem. It will take time to get Moss on board with our offense. But if the Vikes can't beat the over-rated Jets, with two weeks to prepare, and AP healthy, then we are'nt going anywhere anyway.

AZJetfan
10-09-2010, 10:58 PM
Overrated or overhyped? I do agree we get to much exposure. But I guess when your in the biggest market and your HC is always mouthing off I guess thats what happens.If Sanchez keeps playing the way he has we will be a contender. The season rests on his shoulders.

1hotchev
10-09-2010, 11:08 PM
Sanchez does have his moments. His biggest job is to not make a mistake. The Jets have a good defense, but they also have every fool at ESPN absolutley facinated with them. The Jets are a 10 and 6 team, who could do well in the playoffs if the defense carries them.

RK.
10-09-2010, 11:11 PM
If they are a ten and six team I just hope one of their six comes this Monday night. :)

AZJetfan
10-09-2010, 11:13 PM
Last year we made it to the AFC championship game. We added Cromartie LT Jason Taylor Holmes ect.... I am not saying we are making the SB for sure but we have a better shot than last year.

1hotchev
10-09-2010, 11:22 PM
I don't think you'll beat the Vikes, you're favored by 4, the Jets are a strong team, the Vikes are 1 and 2. The season is young, don't count yourself in the championship game yet. You might draw the Ravens first round.

Traveling_Vike
10-09-2010, 11:23 PM
I agree that the Jets are more overexposed than overrated, although I do think that they're counted just a little ahead of where they ought to be, and the Vikings, perhaps deservedly, a bit behind for their respective talent levels.

I think it's a fairly close matchup, in most respects. Two very good rushing offenses against two good rushing defenses. Two improving pass offenses against two strong passing defenses.

I think the VIkings have the slight advantage across the board on the defensive secondary, although Revis is head and whoulders above any one guy we have. I'd also take Peterson over Tomlinson, although LT has been playing like a man possessed lately. The Jets O-line is playing better than ours at the moment, at least in protection.

My worries on this game are several. First, it's in your house. Second, Moss isn't fully up to speed on our offense yet, and has had little time to get used to catching Favre's passes. He'll contribute, b ut maybe not as much as folks are hoping, at least not this quickly. But mostly, because it is MNF, and the VIkings have a significant history of laying giant eggs on national TV. There have been a few exceptions, of course, but in general, the bigger the audience, the worse the collapse.

I try to stay as optimistic as I can, but I am picking the Jets in this one, close. I do not, however, believe this spells doom for the Vikings, as I expect to see more improvement which will culminate in a thrashing (again) of the Cowboys in Minnesota. From there, who knows, but I think that's still soon enough to turn it around and go on a tear through the second half of the season.

Anyway, welcome to our site and I hope you enjoy your visit with us.

1hotchev
10-09-2010, 11:25 PM
Right you are cotton.

AZJetfan
10-09-2010, 11:26 PM
We will see. Thats why we play the game.

1hotchev
10-09-2010, 11:29 PM
Right you are cotton was meant for RK

AZJetfan
10-09-2010, 11:35 PM
I a done for the night however Lets hope for an injury free and good game. May the best team win!

STCLOUDSAYSGOVIKES
10-10-2010, 01:30 AM
Thanks, we will

gregair13
10-10-2010, 01:41 AM
Maybe both our QB and star WR will shake their ****s at the national televised audience.

tke0933
10-10-2010, 04:09 AM
Moss is still new to the offense, but like CCarter said, call the play and tell Randy go long. We now have that presence and that will open the run game for AP. Revis is coming off an injury and will be hesitant to test it. Close game but I think the Vikes win.

Beezer
10-11-2010, 03:11 AM
If there is any indication on how the Vikings will fare these coming weeks in their outrageously difficult schedule, it would be determined by how well they play against the Jets.

After two weeks of rest and prep, along with acquiring Moss; this Monday Night game is pivotal in building momentum and credibility. Right now the season is wide-open (and frankly, its been a strange season so far) and its up for the Vikings' taking. How well they perform Monday will set the tone for the rest of the season. Is it a must-win for the Vikings? I say yes, even if its an early road game.

The match-ups look good. Expect Frazier to throw some crazy looks on defense to stir up Sanchez. The Vikings tend to perform exceptionally well if there is consistent pressure on the QB. Sacks aren't necessary, but giving the opposing QB a sense of panicky urgency will cause a lot of mistakes.
The Jets O-line have done a "good" job protecting Sanchez and opening up plays for their running corps. Sanchez is a hard QB to catch because of his mobility as well.

As on the Vikings offense, its hard to tell. Favre has his way of picking apart a 3-4 defense, as Peterson has his own way of literally running over them. I expect the Vikings offense to start off fast rather than testing the water with conservative plays. The Jets have a very, very athletic defense with or without Revis. Cromartie has given us trouble in the past regardless of what people think of him, I'm sure we will catch him on his heels.

Touchdowns are always more desirable but field goals need to be made to widen the score gap. Forcing the Jets to become one-dimensional with Sanchez gives him more chances to make mistakes.

To win Vikings must:
-Spread out the 3-4, as well as contain them.
-Blitz (I believe in the Blitz as much as Frazier.)
-Convert the third downs. (It's part of the scheme.)
-Keep at least a two possession lead. So in part, make the field goals!
-Not get gobbled up by the Jets' O-Line. If this happens, we will be in deep trouble.

It's going to be a close game even if the Vikings do everything necessary to stay in the game. How often Sanchez throws INTs will affect the score margin of the game.

...Vikings by 10, with the game being played hard and close well into the fourth quarter.

Mark_The_Viking
10-11-2010, 03:28 AM
STCLOUDSAYSGOVIKES wrote:

Thanks, we will

Hey StC you a Rush fan?

Marrdro
10-11-2010, 08:33 AM
I love it when other fans come here to actually talk football instead of crap.

My take........

Jets
Pts Yds Pass Run
26.5(4th) 339.5(14th) 171.8(25th) 167.8(1rst)

Vikes
14.3(31rst) 328.3(18th) 185(23rd) 143.3(5th)

Team/Player Stats (http://www.nfl.com/players/adrianpeterson/profile?id=PET260705)

Looks to be pretty evenly matched, except for points. That can be attributed to the Vikes and turnovers and the Jets and no turnovers.

Another interesting thing to look at..... LT had 62 yards his first game (Bal), 76 the second (NE), 70 the third(Mia) and then had a monster game of 133 yards (Buf). Was that because he instantly got better or could it be a black eye on the defense he faced.

AD on the other hand has had a 87 yard game (NO), 145 second game (MIA) and a 160 yard game (Det).

I kindof like to look at the common game (MIA) as a indicator when I compare backs.

I think we can run on you, if the staff will stick with it. I also think your OL is better than our DL. Truth of the matter is, I think you have the best OL in the league right now, mostly because of your C (Mangolds) play.

Although I Love to watch that cat pull, that isn't his real strong suite. Watching the line shifts, it appears he calls a damn good game as your line is pretty good on picking up the extra guy.

Profootball focus has this little quote on its 32 Teams/32 Observations....


New York Jets: Mark Sanchez may have only completed 54.8 percent of passes when blitzed, but six of his touchdowns have come in this scenario. Hes better for having fewer men in coverage.


That couldn't be possible if your OL wasn't doing thier job.

Another thing I worry about. Even though or D looks good statistically (Pts allowed), I still say our DL is open to getting gashed by the run when Phat Pat isn't in there playing the 0 technique. It will be interesting to if JK can fill that void like he did against the Lions.

Long story short, I'm picking the Vikes (always do) but think this will be more about the ground game than the air game that most think it is gonna be.

Again, glad to see you on the board. Feel free to come around again as I think, if everything works out right, we might be seeing each other again this year. ;)

AngloVike
10-11-2010, 08:42 AM
I would love to see the passing increase tenfold in this game but realistically that isn't going to happen. If we show signs of starting to stretch the field out and stopping teams stacking the box again then I'll be happier. Then we can look more to lighting up defences next week when Dallas limp into town.

It's going to be a close game and I reckon will be a FG difference between the two teams with it able to go to either team.
Here's to a good game and no injuries to anyone.

Marrdro
10-11-2010, 08:50 AM
AngloVike wrote:

I would love to see the passing increase tenfold in this game but realistically that isn't going to happen. If we show signs of starting to stretch the field out and stopping teams stacking the box again then I'll be happier. Then we can look more to lighting up defences next week when Dallas limp into town.

It's going to be a close game and I reckon will be a FG difference between the two teams with it able to go to either team.
Here's to a good game and no injuries to anyone.
Vikes 28 Jets 17. ;)

Erinnn
10-11-2010, 10:45 AM
I love ESPN 1500's front page today. I made it my desktop at work.

http://www.1500espn.com/wtf/images/vikingsposters/sm_week4_jets.jpg

ndnorseman
10-11-2010, 11:43 AM
That is a kick-ass image.....just hope he isn't sparking up a blunt with that flame. Or is that Revis getting burnt? I could go with that. ;-)