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BadlandsVikings
02-17-2010, 04:25 PM
http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_14418568

marstc09
02-17-2010, 04:31 PM
Wooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooo

I am going to guess Favre is coming back now.

Krumb
02-17-2010, 04:40 PM
Good news , I like Big Phat Pat.

thorshammer
02-17-2010, 06:59 PM
That's a relief. He can still get it done. I love the way Phat Pat plays.

Brazilian Rider
02-17-2010, 07:20 PM
Does this mean we can skip getting a DT in this year's draft?

Sajid28
02-17-2010, 07:43 PM
Brazilian Rider wrote:

Does this mean we can skip getting a DT in this year's draft?

well not really, this guy a season or two left in the tank, if that. and he doesnt play 3rd downs, so either we need jimmy kennedy back or we gotta draft a DT for depth. As for 1st rounders, I think the only way we take a DT with our 29th pick is if there is a steal at that spot. This might not be the place to discuss it, but depending on who we resign + who we sign as free agents, I think our 29th pick should goto our defense.

VikingMike
02-18-2010, 08:42 AM
Williams Wall (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/10013/black-and-blue-all-over-williams-wall)



For those who have asked where the Williams Wall lawsuit stands, we reportedly will get our next update Thursday. Hennepin County (Minn.) judge Gary Larson is expected to rule on whether the case can proceed in state court, according to Brian Murphy of the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

Prophet
02-18-2010, 08:49 AM
Glad to hear it. Phat Pat with Terrence Cody shadowing him means the run stuffing D will not miss a beat.

VikingMike
02-18-2010, 08:53 AM
Cody at the Senior Bowl weigh-in.


http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/football/nfl/01/26/terrence.cody.ap/terrence-cody.jpg

Prophet
02-18-2010, 08:59 AM
VikingMike wrote:

Cody at the Senior Bowl weigh-in.

Yes, disgusting picture. I've seen him play a few times and liked his style. My take is that if he can be that dominant as a fat out of shape bastard, think what he will be able to do with some NFL-style conditioning under the tutelage of Phat Pat for a season. I'm all about inking Cody.

Freya
02-18-2010, 10:54 AM
Dang, this is good news!

C Mac D
02-18-2010, 10:57 AM
VikingMike wrote:

Cody at the Senior Bowl weigh-in.


http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/football/nfl/01/26/terrence.cody.ap/terrence-cody.jpg

Are you sure? TMZ posted the same picture and said it was Whoopi Goldberg on a bender.

BleedinPandG
02-18-2010, 11:07 AM
Sajid28 wrote:


well not really, this guy a season or two left in the tank, if that. and he doesnt play 3rd downs, so either we need jimmy kennedy back or we gotta draft a DT for depth. As for 1st rounders, I think the only way we take a DT with our 29th pick is if there is a steal at that spot. This might not be the place to discuss it, but depending on who we resign + who we sign as free agents, I think our 29th pick should goto our defense.

Except we draft 30th :P We had a better regular season record than the other losing Conference team (the Jets).

Picking that late does pose an interesting challenge... that late you don't expect to find any game changing 1st year starting ROY type candidates... good thing is we have no need for a 1st year starter (if we ignore the McK thing). It'll be great to let a guy sit and learn whether it be DT under the Wall, a LDE under RayRay and Allen, or an OG under Hutch.

VikingMike
02-18-2010, 12:19 PM
Judge: Vikings' Kevin and Pat Williams can sue NFL in Hennepin County (http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_14426021)



The split decision in the landmark StarCaps case sets the stage for a March 8 trial that could determine whether the Vikings can count on having their two star defensive linemen on the field when the 2010 season opens in September.



March 8 trial date for Williams Wall (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/10027/march-8-trial-date-for-williams-wall)


The upshot of Thursday's Williams Wall ruling: The long-discussed case will go to trial in Minnesota state court in less than a month.

Flidais
02-18-2010, 03:32 PM
Pat, Pat, Pat.

I thought you said you had talked to Favre about retirement?!

Really man, announcing this early is not likely to get you out of training camp.

Should have flip flopped a little while longer.

(Just kidding: I'm overjoyed to see that Pat is coming back, but I do think he should have tried a little harder to get out of training camp. I think he could have gotten away with it).

Prophet wrote:

VikingMike wrote:

Cody at the Senior Bowl weigh-in.

Yes, disgusting picture. I've seen him play a few times and liked his style. My take is that if he can be that dominant as a fat out of shape bastard, think what he will be able to do with some NFL-style conditioning under the tutelage of Phat Pat for a season. I'm all about inking Cody.

I see what you like in Cody, I do, but I think I would like him better at 350 than at 370. But getting him down another 20 pounds might be too much for us, especially since 370 is down from his high school weight of over 400.

I just don't see the Vikings as being the team with the discipline that he would need to get the weight off and keep it off. I think with us he'd be more likely to blow back up. We do sort of have a weight control problem with the Vikings.

I think I'd rather see him go to a team that could make him keep the weight off, rather than inking him ourselves and either risking his joints through the excess weight or being in constant trouble with diet drugs and their questionable ingredients.

Prophet
02-18-2010, 03:46 PM
Flidais wrote:

Pat, Pat, Pat.

I thought you said you had talked to Favre about retirement?!

Really man, announcing this early is not likely to get you out of training camp.

Should have flip flopped a little while longer.

(Just kidding: I'm overjoyed to see that Pat is coming back, but I do think he should have tried a little harder to get out of training camp. I think he could have gotten away with it).

Prophet wrote:

VikingMike wrote:

Cody at the Senior Bowl weigh-in.

Yes, disgusting picture. I've seen him play a few times and liked his style. My take is that if he can be that dominant as a fat out of shape bastard, think what he will be able to do with some NFL-style conditioning under the tutelage of Phat Pat for a season. I'm all about inking Cody.

I see what you like in Cody, I do, but I think I would like him better at 350 than at 370. But getting him down another 20 pounds might be too much for us, especially since 370 is down from his high school weight of over 400.

I just don't see the Vikings as being the team with the discipline that he would need to get the weight off and keep it off. I think with us he'd be more likely to blow back up. We do sort of have a weight control problem with the Vikings.

I think I'd rather see him go to a team that could make him keep the weight off, rather than inking him ourselves and either risking his joints through the excess weight or being in constant trouble with diet drugs and their questionable ingredients.

I admit that hanging out with Phat Pat probably isn't the best weight reduction plan. I'm thinking that suspensions are hanging in the balance and I have heard nothing but good about the conditioning coach, Kanavy. I would expect him to get the fat boy into playing shape. Phat Pat is a freak of nature and I think Cody could be too with the right conditioning.

Flidais
02-18-2010, 04:31 PM
Prophet wrote:

I admit that hanging out with Phat Pat probably isn't the best weight reduction plan.
Hehe. The trouble is that it's not just Pat. Kevin has been taking the diet drugs too, and, giving McKinnie the benefit of the doubt, McKinnie could and should shed a few to ease the stress on his feet. I love Phil Loadholt, but he gets away with his size because of age. If he's not watching that, a few years from now, he'll be struggling too. Tall athletes like basketball players seem to have an enormous amount of trouble with their knees and ankles to start with, being tall and heavy is most likely not helpful.

Conversely, I think I'd like a few more pounds on Sully, but he already seems to have self-image issues, so I'll leave him alone.

Prophet wrote:

I'm thinking that suspensions are hanging in the balance and I have heard nothing but good about the conditioning coach, Kanavy. I would expect him to get the fat boy into playing shape. Phat Pat is a freak of nature and I think Cody could be too with the right conditioning.
I definitely agree that he'd be a monster with the right conditioning; I'm just not sure we're the ones who could give it to him. You may be right about the conditioning coach. I fully realize that the main problem with Pat, Kevin and McKinnie could be that they are older, established players that are not as easy to bully guide. Maybe we could keep a handle on Cody's weight.

I guess we won't know unless we draft him. I wouldn't be opposed. I like him and we could do worse.

so-cal vike
02-18-2010, 07:56 PM
Phat Pat comin' back is excellent news. It shows his hunger, and he certainly is better than our bench.

Midge Resurrected
02-18-2010, 08:13 PM
Sajid28 wrote:

Brazilian Rider wrote:

Does this mean we can skip getting a DT in this year's draft?

well not really, this guy a season or two left in the tank, if that. and he doesnt play 3rd downs, so either we need jimmy kennedy back or we gotta draft a DT for depth. As for 1st rounders, I think the only way we take a DT with our 29th pick is if there is a steal at that spot. This might not be the place to discuss it, but depending on who we resign + who we sign as free agents, I think our 29th pick should goto our defense.

We pick 30th.

But yeah ... this should keep us from going DT at that spot. I would think that we go CB if there is one we really like. I feel like it is a defense pick though.

idahovikefan7
02-18-2010, 08:29 PM
Glad to see the old phat pat made the right decision. Now lets hope this boasts the same result for ol number 4 as well.

VikingMike
02-18-2010, 09:45 PM
Prophet wrote:

Flidais wrote:

Pat, Pat, Pat.

I thought you said you had talked to Favre about retirement?!

Really man, announcing this early is not likely to get you out of training camp.

Should have flip flopped a little while longer.

(Just kidding: I'm overjoyed to see that Pat is coming back, but I do think he should have tried a little harder to get out of training camp. I think he could have gotten away with it).

Prophet wrote:

VikingMike wrote:

Cody at the Senior Bowl weigh-in.

Yes, disgusting picture. I've seen him play a few times and liked his style. My take is that if he can be that dominant as a fat out of shape bastard, think what he will be able to do with some NFL-style conditioning under the tutelage of Phat Pat for a season. I'm all about inking Cody.

I see what you like in Cody, I do, but I think I would like him better at 350 than at 370. But getting him down another 20 pounds might be too much for us, especially since 370 is down from his high school weight of over 400.

I just don't see the Vikings as being the team with the discipline that he would need to get the weight off and keep it off. I think with us he'd be more likely to blow back up. We do sort of have a weight control problem with the Vikings.

I think I'd rather see him go to a team that could make him keep the weight off, rather than inking him ourselves and either risking his joints through the excess weight or being in constant trouble with diet drugs and their questionable ingredients.

I admit that hanging out with Phat Pat probably isn't the best weight reduction plan. I'm thinking that suspensions are hanging in the balance and I have heard nothing but good about the conditioning coach, Kanavy. I would expect him to get the fat boy into playing shape. Phat Pat is a freak of nature and I think Cody could be too with the right conditioning.


I don't think we could go wrong picking a top-notch D lineman (or an O-lineman) in the first round. It's not a glamorous pick, but those are the keys to winning...strength in the trenches. Just not sure if they can get Cody into decent playing shape...but I don't know enough about him to make a proper comment.

Marrdro
02-19-2010, 07:41 AM
How much is he gonna get this year?

Look, I love the big man to death, but he sure seemed to be taking alot of reps off last year. We need to sign JK and pursue a kid in the draft, and not that tub of lard Cody.


Weaknesses:
Lacks lateral agility
Not very versatile
Motor runs hot and cold
Loses stamina late in games
Not a productive pass-rusher
Might be too big and could affect long-term health
Could stand to lose some weight in his "bubble"
Leverage can be a problem
Really looks slow at times
Doesn't make many plays outside the phone booth
Lacks range

Summary: Terrence Cody is a solid nose tackle prospect, but I can't put him on the same level as a Casey Hampton or Vince Wilfork just yet. Cody isn't going to fit most teams running a 4-3 scheme. His lack of stamina might really hurt him on Draft Day. He is a projected second-round pick at this point. Cody is going to be a two-down player in the NFL.

Walter Football Scouting Report (http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010tcody.php)

I'd much rather see them wait until the second and go with a guy like Lamar Houston, Cam Thomas or Mike Neal.

Marrdro
02-19-2010, 07:49 AM
VikingMike wrote:

Prophet wrote:

Flidais wrote:

Pat, Pat, Pat.

I thought you said you had talked to Favre about retirement?!

Really man, announcing this early is not likely to get you out of training camp.

Should have flip flopped a little while longer.

(Just kidding: I'm overjoyed to see that Pat is coming back, but I do think he should have tried a little harder to get out of training camp. I think he could have gotten away with it).

Prophet wrote:

VikingMike wrote:

Cody at the Senior Bowl weigh-in.

Yes, disgusting picture. I've seen him play a few times and liked his style. My take is that if he can be that dominant as a fat out of shape bastard, think what he will be able to do with some NFL-style conditioning under the tutelage of Phat Pat for a season. I'm all about inking Cody.

I see what you like in Cody, I do, but I think I would like him better at 350 than at 370. But getting him down another 20 pounds might be too much for us, especially since 370 is down from his high school weight of over 400.

I just don't see the Vikings as being the team with the discipline that he would need to get the weight off and keep it off. I think with us he'd be more likely to blow back up. We do sort of have a weight control problem with the Vikings.

I think I'd rather see him go to a team that could make him keep the weight off, rather than inking him ourselves and either risking his joints through the excess weight or being in constant trouble with diet drugs and their questionable ingredients.

I admit that hanging out with Phat Pat probably isn't the best weight reduction plan. I'm thinking that suspensions are hanging in the balance and I have heard nothing but good about the conditioning coach, Kanavy. I would expect him to get the fat boy into playing shape. Phat Pat is a freak of nature and I think Cody could be too with the right conditioning.


I don't think we could go wrong picking a top-notch D lineman (or an O-lineman) in the first round. It's not a glamorous pick, but those are the keys to winning...strength in the trenches. Just not sure if they can get Cody into decent playing shape...but I don't know enough about him to make a proper comment.
It appears to me, that the first round of this draft will see alot of OL and DL go early which probably won't leave much in that regard for the Vikes to look at.

Would I love to see a Dan Williams or a Brian Price fall to us? Sure, but don't think its gonna happen.

On a side note, if it plays out the way I think it will, it leaves some nice options at CB, QB and G/C prospect available.

Most mocks have guys like Donavan Warren CB, Maurkice Pouncey, C/G, Sean Weatherspoon, Brandon LaFell, WR, Jermaine Gresham, TE, Pat Devlin, QB, Tony Pike QB, Bruce Carter, OLB, OLB and Jared Odrick, DE/DT (mostly because of the DUI thing) available when we pick.

That isn't bad pickings if you ask me.

Prophet
02-19-2010, 08:48 AM
Marrdro wrote:

How much is he gonna get this year?

Look, I love the big man to death, but he sure seemed to be taking alot of reps off last year. We need to sign JK and pursue a kid in the draft, and not that tub of lard Cody.


Weaknesses:
Lacks lateral agility
Not very versatile
Motor runs hot and cold
Loses stamina late in games
Not a productive pass-rusher
Might be too big and could affect long-term health
Could stand to lose some weight in his "bubble"
Leverage can be a problem
Really looks slow at times
Doesn't make many plays outside the phone booth
Lacks range

Summary: Terrence Cody is a solid nose tackle prospect, but I can't put him on the same level as a Casey Hampton or Vince Wilfork just yet. Cody isn't going to fit most teams running a 4-3 scheme. His lack of stamina might really hurt him on Draft Day. He is a projected second-round pick at this point. Cody is going to be a two-down player in the NFL.

Walter Football Scouting Report (http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010tcody.php)

I'd much rather see them wait until the second and go with a guy like Lamar Houston, Cam Thomas or Mike Neal.

Dem's fighting words. Get some shirtless pics of your boys and see how pathetic they look. I'm basing my man-love for Cody off of watching him play and I never do any mocking or care much for it, but, in Cody's case I am on the bandwagon for this offseason. He plays tough. No, I'm not some scout, but, I keyed in on him in four games that I went to last year and watched his play. I liked what I saw. Does that mean anything? No. But, I think that guy with the requisite transition and conditioning would be a force in the NFL. With the Vikings he has the perfect situation now that Phat Pat is coming back for a another year. As long as Cody does not get the McKinney disease he would be a huge asset for the Vikings. Cody is to Prophet as Favre is to marstc09.

Marrdro
02-19-2010, 08:55 AM
Prophet wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

How much is he gonna get this year?

Look, I love the big man to death, but he sure seemed to be taking alot of reps off last year. We need to sign JK and pursue a kid in the draft, and not that tub of lard Cody.


Weaknesses:
Lacks lateral agility
Not very versatile
Motor runs hot and cold
Loses stamina late in games
Not a productive pass-rusher
Might be too big and could affect long-term health
Could stand to lose some weight in his "bubble"
Leverage can be a problem
Really looks slow at times
Doesn't make many plays outside the phone booth
Lacks range

Summary: Terrence Cody is a solid nose tackle prospect, but I can't put him on the same level as a Casey Hampton or Vince Wilfork just yet. Cody isn't going to fit most teams running a 4-3 scheme. His lack of stamina might really hurt him on Draft Day. He is a projected second-round pick at this point. Cody is going to be a two-down player in the NFL.

Walter Football Scouting Report (http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010tcody.php)

I'd much rather see them wait until the second and go with a guy like Lamar Houston, Cam Thomas or Mike Neal.

Dem's fighting words. Get some shirtless pics of your boys and see how pathetic they look. I'm basing my man-love for Cody off of watching him play and I never do any mocking or care much for it, but, in Cody's case I am on the bandwagon for this offseason. He plays tough. No, I'm not some scout, but, I keyed in on him in four games that I went to last year and watched his play. I liked what I saw. Does that mean anything? No. But, I think that guy with the requisite transition and conditioning would be a force in the NFL. With the Vikings he has the perfect situation now that Phat Pat is coming back for a another year. As long as Cody does not get the McKinney disease he would be a huge asset for the Vikings. Cody is to Prophet as Favre is to marstc09.
LOL, I thought you only stepped out on a limb for LSU guys. Isn't Cody from Bama or something like that?

As to your post, don't get me wrong, I like what he has to offer, especially if he can get into game shape. Problem for me is I'm not so sure I would take that risk, at least not in the first round.

Course you could call me silly for thinking a guy with a DUI problem isn't a risk as well.

Prophet
02-19-2010, 09:06 AM
Marrdro wrote:

Prophet wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

How much is he gonna get this year?

Look, I love the big man to death, but he sure seemed to be taking alot of reps off last year. We need to sign JK and pursue a kid in the draft, and not that tub of lard Cody.


Weaknesses:
Lacks lateral agility
Not very versatile
Motor runs hot and cold
Loses stamina late in games
Not a productive pass-rusher
Might be too big and could affect long-term health
Could stand to lose some weight in his "bubble"
Leverage can be a problem
Really looks slow at times
Doesn't make many plays outside the phone booth
Lacks range

Summary: Terrence Cody is a solid nose tackle prospect, but I can't put him on the same level as a Casey Hampton or Vince Wilfork just yet. Cody isn't going to fit most teams running a 4-3 scheme. His lack of stamina might really hurt him on Draft Day. He is a projected second-round pick at this point. Cody is going to be a two-down player in the NFL.

Walter Football Scouting Report (http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010tcody.php)

I'd much rather see them wait until the second and go with a guy like Lamar Houston, Cam Thomas or Mike Neal.

Dem's fighting words. Get some shirtless pics of your boys and see how pathetic they look. I'm basing my man-love for Cody off of watching him play and I never do any mocking or care much for it, but, in Cody's case I am on the bandwagon for this offseason. He plays tough. No, I'm not some scout, but, I keyed in on him in four games that I went to last year and watched his play. I liked what I saw. Does that mean anything? No. But, I think that guy with the requisite transition and conditioning would be a force in the NFL. With the Vikings he has the perfect situation now that Phat Pat is coming back for a another year. As long as Cody does not get the McKinney disease he would be a huge asset for the Vikings. Cody is to Prophet as Favre is to marstc09.
LOL, I thought you only stepped out on a limb for LSU guys. Isn't Cody from Bama or something like that?

As to your post, don't get me wrong, I like what he has to offer, especially if he can get into game shape. Problem for me is I'm not so sure I would take that risk, at least not in the first round.

Course you could call me silly for thinking a guy with a DUI problem isn't a risk as well.

I'm not thinking first round either, he probably won't be around in the second, maybe, I don't know.

No, I'm not an LSU guy. I can't stand LSU. I'm more of a SEC guy, just because I see a lot of those games and have season tx to watch Mississippi State get pounded on by the various powerhouses in the SEC. When I go to those games I just watch the lines primarily and Cody stood out. I didn't know about the DUI problem, although i was seriously bummed when I saw his shirtless picture...made it tougher to defend my man-love for him. I guess the Vikings new psychological duo interviewers can interogate him at the combine and see if he has the McKinnie trait or if he is moldable into an NFL player.

Marrdro
02-19-2010, 09:10 AM
Prophet wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

Prophet wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

How much is he gonna get this year?

Look, I love the big man to death, but he sure seemed to be taking alot of reps off last year. We need to sign JK and pursue a kid in the draft, and not that tub of lard Cody.


Weaknesses:
Lacks lateral agility
Not very versatile
Motor runs hot and cold
Loses stamina late in games
Not a productive pass-rusher
Might be too big and could affect long-term health
Could stand to lose some weight in his "bubble"
Leverage can be a problem
Really looks slow at times
Doesn't make many plays outside the phone booth
Lacks range

Summary: Terrence Cody is a solid nose tackle prospect, but I can't put him on the same level as a Casey Hampton or Vince Wilfork just yet. Cody isn't going to fit most teams running a 4-3 scheme. His lack of stamina might really hurt him on Draft Day. He is a projected second-round pick at this point. Cody is going to be a two-down player in the NFL.

Walter Football Scouting Report (http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010tcody.php)

I'd much rather see them wait until the second and go with a guy like Lamar Houston, Cam Thomas or Mike Neal.

Dem's fighting words. Get some shirtless pics of your boys and see how pathetic they look. I'm basing my man-love for Cody off of watching him play and I never do any mocking or care much for it, but, in Cody's case I am on the bandwagon for this offseason. He plays tough. No, I'm not some scout, but, I keyed in on him in four games that I went to last year and watched his play. I liked what I saw. Does that mean anything? No. But, I think that guy with the requisite transition and conditioning would be a force in the NFL. With the Vikings he has the perfect situation now that Phat Pat is coming back for a another year. As long as Cody does not get the McKinney disease he would be a huge asset for the Vikings. Cody is to Prophet as Favre is to marstc09.
LOL, I thought you only stepped out on a limb for LSU guys. Isn't Cody from Bama or something like that?

As to your post, don't get me wrong, I like what he has to offer, especially if he can get into game shape. Problem for me is I'm not so sure I would take that risk, at least not in the first round.

Course you could call me silly for thinking a guy with a DUI problem isn't a risk as well.

I'm not thinking first round either, he probably won't be around in the second, maybe, I don't know.

No, I'm not an LSU guy. I can't stand LSU. I'm more of a SEC guy, just because I see a lot of those games and have season tx to watch Mississippi State get pounded on by the various powerhouses in the SEC. When I go to those games I just watch the lines primarily and Cody stood out. I didn't know about the DUI problem, although i was seriously bummed when I saw his shirtless picture...made it tougher to defend my man-love for him. I guess the Vikings new psychological duo interviewers can interogate him at the combine and see if he has the McKinnie trait or if he is moldable into an NFL player.
Cody doesn't have the DUI problem, the guy I'm looking at there (Jared Odrick) does, along with a disorderly conduct citation or something along that lines.