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Sajid28
11-12-2009, 11:35 AM
Charley Walters of the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports some people believe Vikings running back Chester Taylor, who can become an unrestricted free agent after the season, could end up with the Washington Redskins, who love to spend money.

http://blog.theredzone.org/ViewItem.asp?Entry=4066

snowinapril
11-12-2009, 11:51 AM
Noooooooooooo!



Okay, it is just speculation.
We should have got something for him if we weren't going to try and resign him.
Should have traded for Betts and a draft pick or something like that before the trade deadline went by.

The best way to get him to stay is to win the Bowl.


If he still feels he needs to make a name for himself, have at it CT, make your name.

Sajid28
11-12-2009, 11:55 AM
"snowinapril" wrote:


Noooooooooooo!



Okay, it is just speculation.
We should have got something for him if we weren't going to try and resign him.
Should have traded for Betts and a draft pick or something like that before the trade deadline went by.

The best way to get him to stay is to win the Bowl.


If he still feels he needs to make a name for himself, have at it CT, make your name.


man id want this guy to retire a Vike. But it is a business and I'm sure Dan Snyder would give him all the money he wants. But honestly if I was Chester, I'd prob stay with Minny. Think about it, why would I want to be the backup of Clinton Portis and max win 6 games than be the backup and 3rd Down back for AP and go deep into the playoffs?

happy camper
11-12-2009, 11:56 AM
Chester Taylor is not nearly a big enough star for the Redskins to be interested

marstc09
11-12-2009, 12:01 PM
Vikings are his best chance to win a Super Bowl. He would be stupid to leave if that is his goal.

gagarr
11-12-2009, 12:04 PM
"happy" wrote:


Chester Taylor is not nearly a big enough star for the Redskins to be interested


Biggest star RB that's going to be on the market next year unless the CBA gets signed.

Johnson14
11-12-2009, 12:05 PM
I would be sad to lose Chester, espec' to the fricken Redskins who stink!

The guy is one of the better back's in the league though so i guess there are going to be offers to him, i hope the FO put together a decent package and that he signs up and stays on a Viking.

midgensa
11-12-2009, 12:10 PM
Eh ... right up the Redskins ally really. A player who is past his prime going to get overpaid and underperform.

Chester will not find a better gig as a backup ... and at 30-years-old ... he really cannot expect a starting position anywhere.

I would not be surprised to see the Vikings not even try to keep him honestly. He is 30 and there are going to be younger options available at some point to spell AD, whether through the draft or free agency.

I wish him luck ... but I think Minnesota is the best place for him, especially if we express interest in keeping him.

snowinapril
11-12-2009, 12:11 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


Vikings are his best chance to win a Super Bowl. He would be stupid to leave if that is his goal.


Sometimes one has to sacrifice number to get the ultimate prize.
Look at KG, his numbers suffered and he really, by numbers, is not an NBA stud anymore (good numbers, but not elite).
As a Twolve, he was a 20 pts- 10 reb- 5 asst guy.
He was mentioned with Oscar Robinson and maybe Karl Malone as having the most season with those numbers.
Now his stats are AVG.
He is willing to let guys like Gooden pass him as being the Face/Star of the NBA.
As a Celtic, his number dropped, but he got his ring and he has the comfort of Pierce, Allen, Rondo, Wallace and others to get wins and contend.

CT can stay and have a better chance at a ring than leaving.
Unless he gets a chance to go to another possible contender.
The Skins are a few years off and CT isn't that young for a RB.

gagarr
11-12-2009, 12:14 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


Vikings are his best chance to win a Super Bowl. He would be stupid to leave if that is his goal.


Given the certainty of getting starter $$$ compared to the odds the Vikes will win the SB next year, if they don't do it this year.
I imagine Taylor will be fielding offers as soon as possible, whereas Favre will be sitting on the fence till???
Without Favre the chance of winning the SB goes down considerably.

Thus, if CT is smart he would take the money, just like Birk did, but I think he should look at a better team than the Redskins.
Colts need a run game if Brown doesn't work out, so I would think there would be a good choice plus a chance to win the SB.

snowinapril
11-12-2009, 12:17 PM
"midgensa" wrote:


Eh ... right up the Redskins ally really. A player who is past his prime going to get overpaid and underperform.

Chester will not find a better gig as a backup ... and at 30-years-old ... he really cannot expect a starting position anywhere.

I would not be surprised to see the Vikings not even try to keep him honestly. He is 30 and there are going to be younger options available at some point to spell AD, whether through the draft or free agency.

I wish him luck ... but I think Minnesota is the best place for him, especially if we express interest in keeping him.


How about Young?
Really haven't seen him play much but could he be like a 3rd down McCoy/Sproles kind of guy?


I like how you are not afraid to lose CT.
I would like to keep him, but maybe we are willing to find a draft pick that could be a third down guy with a 6/7 year upside to them.
Someone that will be around to keep AD fresh for the years to come.

midgensa
11-12-2009, 12:18 PM
"gagarr" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Vikings are his best chance to win a Super Bowl. He would be stupid to leave if that is his goal.


Given the certainty of getting starter $$$ compared to the odds the Vikes will win the SB next year, if they don't do it this year.
I imagine Taylor will be fielding offers as soon as possible, whereas Favre will be sitting on the fence till???
Without Favre the chance of winning the SB goes down considerably.

Thus, if CT is smart he would take the money, just like Birk did, but I think he should look at a better team than the Redskins.
Colts need a run game if Brown doesn't work out, so I would think there would be a good choice plus a chance to win the SB.


The certainty of starter money? Who pays 30-year-old RBs to be their starter?

CT at best can hope to be the top guy of a committee somewhere (maybe Indy as you stated) ... but he is not going to get a monster contract to be the No. 1 guy anywhere.

snowinapril
11-12-2009, 12:20 PM
"gagarr" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Vikings are his best chance to win a Super Bowl. He would be stupid to leave if that is his goal.


Given the certainty of getting starter $$$ compared to the odds the Vikes will win the SB next year, if they don't do it this year.
I imagine Taylor will be fielding offers as soon as possible, whereas Favre will be sitting on the fence till???
Without Favre the chance of winning the SB goes down considerably.

Thus, if CT is smart he would take the money, just like Birk did, but I think he should look at a better team than the Redskins.
Colts need a run game if Brown doesn't work out, so I would think there would be a good choice plus a chance to win the SB.


Brown is working out isn't he.
He has been injured a bit, but I think he sticks in Indy.

midgensa
11-12-2009, 12:20 PM
"snowinapril" wrote:


"midgensa" wrote:


Eh ... right up the Redskins ally really. A player who is past his prime going to get overpaid and underperform.

Chester will not find a better gig as a backup ... and at 30-years-old ... he really cannot expect a starting position anywhere.

I would not be surprised to see the Vikings not even try to keep him honestly. He is 30 and there are going to be younger options available at some point to spell AD, whether through the draft or free agency.

I wish him luck ... but I think Minnesota is the best place for him, especially if we express interest in keeping him.


How about Young?
Really haven't seen him play much but could he be like a 3rd down McCoy/Sproles kind of guy?


I like how you are not afraid to lose CT.
I would like to keep him, but maybe we are willing to find a draft pick that could be a third down guy with a 6/7 year upside to them.
Someone that will be around to keep AD fresh for the years to come.


Yeah ... I like Young, but I don't know if he has the speed and/or power to be very effective.

I think the draft is a very good opportunity for us to get someone for this spot as RBs are a dime a dozen and not a huge thing to look for in the FA market.

I would love to keep Chester, but I am not going to go overboard like many around these parts and suggest he is a top-tier RB in this league. He is very good right here, but we really might not need him going forward.

Marrdro
11-12-2009, 12:30 PM
"Sajid28" wrote:


"snowinapril" wrote:


Noooooooooooo!



Okay, it is just speculation.
We should have got something for him if we weren't going to try and resign him.
Should have traded for Betts and a draft pick or something like that before the trade deadline went by.

The best way to get him to stay is to win the Bowl.


If he still feels he needs to make a name for himself, have at it CT, make your name.


man id want this guy to retire a Vike. But it is a business and I'm sure Dan Snyder would give him all the money he wants. But honestly if I was Chester, I'd prob stay with Minny. Think about it, why would I want to be the backup of Clinton Portis and max win 6 games than be the backup and 3rd Down back for AP and go deep into the playoffs?
Lets not forget, this is a business.
Very few players have the luxury to be set to the point that they will opt to stay with a winning team for less money going into thier last contract.

Most are looking for thier last payday to take care of them and thiers.
CT will be doing that. He will go to the team that offers him the most money IMHO.
Nothing more nothing less.

Marrdro
11-12-2009, 12:33 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


Vikings are his best chance to win a Super Bowl. He would be stupid to leave if that is his goal.

Good point, however, do you really think his goal will be to win a SB or to make sure his family is set?
I kindof lean towards that last.


CT will be looking for one last big contract.
Unfortunately, I believe that contract will be higher than what the Vikes will offer, if they offer anything at all.

snowinapril
11-12-2009, 12:33 PM
"midgensa" wrote:


"gagarr" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Vikings are his best chance to win a Super Bowl. He would be stupid to leave if that is his goal.


Given the certainty of getting starter $$$ compared to the odds the Vikes will win the SB next year, if they don't do it this year.
I imagine Taylor will be fielding offers as soon as possible, whereas Favre will be sitting on the fence till???
Without Favre the chance of winning the SB goes down considerably.

Thus, if CT is smart he would take the money, just like Birk did, but I think he should look at a better team than the Redskins.
Colts need a run game if Brown doesn't work out, so I would think there would be a good choice plus a chance to win the SB.


The certainty of starter money? Who pays 30-year-old RBs to be their starter?

CT at best can hope to be the top guy of a committee somewhere (maybe Indy as you stated) ... but he is not going to get a monster contract to be the No. 1 guy anywhere.


Indy has a history of getting rid of RBs, not signing them.

Faulk
James
Rhodes
now Addai, people were speculating that Addai would be at half carries by mid season.
I think Browns injury has put a damper on that for now.

gagarr
11-12-2009, 12:35 PM
Let Taylor go and use the $$$ to get Lendale White if the Titan's don't extend him and he hits the RFA market.
A big back to go with AD would be a great change of pace.
AD then can let LW do the scut work short yardage, NOT NECESSARILY GOALLINE, so he can keep fresh and break the big ones late in the game.

LW has more carries and a hire avg than CT, but LenDale isn't a receiver.
But I expect AD to become a quality receiver soon.

I would love to see AD and LW in the backfield.

Marrdro
11-12-2009, 12:38 PM
"gagarr" wrote:


Let Taylor go and use the $$$ to get Lendale White if the Titan's don't extend him and he hits the RFA market.
A big back to go with AD would be a great change of pace.
AD then can let LW do the scut work short yardage, NOT NECESSARILY GOALLINE, so he can keep fresh and break the big ones late in the game.

LW has more carries and a hire avg than CT, but LenDale isn't a receiver.
But I expect AD to become a quality receiver soon.

I would love to see AD and LW in the backfield.

Or just draft a guy or promote one of the guys you've been developing.
Seriously, teams that have success don't run around signing a bunch of FA's.
They typically draft well, develop thier talent, and if they can't fill a spot that way, then go out and get a FA.


My guess is that this staff will look to resign Chester if they are able, look to thier bench, look to the draft, and if they aren't happy with any of those efforts, sign a mid tier guy.

jargomcfargo
11-12-2009, 12:43 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"Sajid28" wrote:


"snowinapril" wrote:


Noooooooooooo!



Okay, it is just speculation.
We should have got something for him if we weren't going to try and resign him.
Should have traded for Betts and a draft pick or something like that before the trade deadline went by.

The best way to get him to stay is to win the Bowl.


If he still feels he needs to make a name for himself, have at it CT, make your name.


man id want this guy to retire a Vike. But it is a business and I'm sure Dan Snyder would give him all the money he wants. But honestly if I was Chester, I'd prob stay with Minny. Think about it, why would I want to be the backup of Clinton Portis and max win 6 games than be the backup and 3rd Down back for AP and go deep into the playoffs?
Lets not forget, this is a business.
Very few players have the luxury to be set to the point that they will opt to stay with a winning team for less money going into thier last contract.

Most are looking for thier last payday to take care of them and thiers.
CT will be doing that. He will go to the team that offers him the most money IMHO.
Nothing more nothing less.


The Vikings will go with a younger, cheaper back. Just like they did at the fullback position.
I just hope the new guy can pass block.

I love CT, but it's business. Besides, CT would like to play more. And he deserves more playing time.

gagarr
11-12-2009, 12:44 PM
"snowinapril" wrote:


"midgensa" wrote:


"gagarr" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Vikings are his best chance to win a Super Bowl. He would be stupid to leave if that is his goal.


Given the certainty of getting starter $$$ compared to the odds the Vikes will win the SB next year, if they don't do it this year.
I imagine Taylor will be fielding offers as soon as possible, whereas Favre will be sitting on the fence till???
Without Favre the chance of winning the SB goes down considerably.

Thus, if CT is smart he would take the money, just like Birk did, but I think he should look at a better team than the Redskins.
Colts need a run game if Brown doesn't work out, so I would think there would be a good choice plus a chance to win the SB.


The certainty of starter money? Who pays 30-year-old RBs to be their starter?

CT at best can hope to be the top guy of a committee somewhere (maybe Indy as you stated) ... but he is not going to get a monster contract to be the No. 1 guy anywhere.


Indy has a history of getting rid of RBs, not signing them.

Faulk
James
Rhodes
now Addai, people were speculating that Addai would be at half carries by mid season.
I think Browns injury has put a damper on that for now.


Your right, Indy wouldn't be interested.

Indy has a tradition of drafting their RB's using them up and letting them go.
Except for Faulk which was dumb period.

Addai is coming to the end of his contract and production is off, so they draft Brown.

Marrdro
11-12-2009, 12:45 PM
"jargomcfargo" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Sajid28" wrote:


"snowinapril" wrote:


Noooooooooooo!



Okay, it is just speculation.
We should have got something for him if we weren't going to try and resign him.
Should have traded for Betts and a draft pick or something like that before the trade deadline went by.

The best way to get him to stay is to win the Bowl.


If he still feels he needs to make a name for himself, have at it CT, make your name.


man id want this guy to retire a Vike. But it is a business and I'm sure Dan Snyder would give him all the money he wants. But honestly if I was Chester, I'd prob stay with Minny. Think about it, why would I want to be the backup of Clinton Portis and max win 6 games than be the backup and 3rd Down back for AP and go deep into the playoffs?
Lets not forget, this is a business.
Very few players have the luxury to be set to the point that they will opt to stay with a winning team for less money going into thier last contract.

Most are looking for thier last payday to take care of them and thiers.
CT will be doing that. He will go to the team that offers him the most money IMHO.
Nothing more nothing less.


The Vikings will go with a younger, cheaper back. Just like they did at the fullback position.I just hope the new guy can pass block.

I love CT, but it's business. Besides, CT would like to play more. And he deserves more playing time.

When was the last time I told you that you were wise beyond your years Doc?

;)

gagarr
11-12-2009, 12:48 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"gagarr" wrote:


Let Taylor go and use the $$$ to get Lendale White if the Titan's don't extend him and he hits the RFA market.
A big back to go with AD would be a great change of pace.
AD then can let LW do the scut work short yardage, NOT NECESSARILY GOALLINE, so he can keep fresh and break the big ones late in the game.

LW has more carries and a hire avg than CT, but LenDale isn't a receiver.
But I expect AD to become a quality receiver soon.

I would love to see AD and LW in the backfield.

Or just draft a guy or promote one of the guys you've been developing.
Seriously, teams that have success don't run around signing a bunch of FA's.
They typically draft well, develop thier talent, and if they can't fill a spot that way, then go out and get a FA.


My guess is that this staff will look to resign Chester if they are able, look to thier bench, look to the draft, and if they aren't happy with any of those efforts, sign a mid tier guy.

I totally agree in developing and not hitting the FA market for a backup position.

But if it's a choice to pay CT starter $$$ or get LW, I'm for getting LW.
CT is good but he's not a complement to AD, he's a replacement.
NOTE: I'm assuming that AD's receiving and blocking improve to be a quality 3rd down back.

jargomcfargo
11-12-2009, 12:50 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"jargomcfargo" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Sajid28" wrote:


"snowinapril" wrote:


Noooooooooooo!



Okay, it is just speculation.
We should have got something for him if we weren't going to try and resign him.
Should have traded for Betts and a draft pick or something like that before the trade deadline went by.

The best way to get him to stay is to win the Bowl.


If he still feels he needs to make a name for himself, have at it CT, make your name.


man id want this guy to retire a Vike. But it is a business and I'm sure Dan Snyder would give him all the money he wants. But honestly if I was Chester, I'd prob stay with Minny. Think about it, why would I want to be the backup of Clinton Portis and max win 6 games than be the backup and 3rd Down back for AP and go deep into the playoffs?
Lets not forget, this is a business.
Very few players have the luxury to be set to the point that they will opt to stay with a winning team for less money going into thier last contract.

Most are looking for thier last payday to take care of them and thiers.
CT will be doing that. He will go to the team that offers him the most money IMHO.
Nothing more nothing less.


The Vikings will go with a younger, cheaper back. Just like they did at the fullback position.I just hope the new guy can pass block.

I love CT, but it's business. Besides, CT would like to play more. And he deserves more playing time.

When was the last time I told you that you were wise beyond your years Doc?

;)


I would love to see Chester stay. But the deal was sealed when AP was drafted.

As for being wise, I'm just another idiot having fun on the net. But thank you anyway.

Marrdro
11-12-2009, 12:51 PM
"gagarr" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"gagarr" wrote:


Let Taylor go and use the $$$ to get Lendale White if the Titan's don't extend him and he hits the RFA market.
A big back to go with AD would be a great change of pace.
AD then can let LW do the scut work short yardage, NOT NECESSARILY GOALLINE, so he can keep fresh and break the big ones late in the game.

LW has more carries and a hire avg than CT, but LenDale isn't a receiver.
But I expect AD to become a quality receiver soon.

I would love to see AD and LW in the backfield.

Or just draft a guy or promote one of the guys you've been developing.
Seriously, teams that have success don't run around signing a bunch of FA's.
They typically draft well, develop thier talent, and if they can't fill a spot that way, then go out and get a FA.


My guess is that this staff will look to resign Chester if they are able, look to thier bench, look to the draft, and if they aren't happy with any of those efforts, sign a mid tier guy.

I totally agree in developing and not hitting the FA market for a backup position.

But if it's a choice to pay CT starter $$$ or get LW, I'm for getting LW.
CT is good but he's not a complement to AD, he's a replacement.
NOTE: I'm assuming that AD's receiving and blocking improve to be a quality 3rd down back.

How much would we use a LW kindof back?
Lets not forget, the guy they put in for situations like that is a H-back/TE kindof cat that can catch, run, block etc.

You yourself said LW doesn't fit that bill (can't catch).

Still say that is what they were trying to make Mills into.
To bad he didn't work out.

gagarr
11-12-2009, 01:02 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"gagarr" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"gagarr" wrote:


Let Taylor go and use the $$$ to get Lendale White if the Titan's don't extend him and he hits the RFA market.
A big back to go with AD would be a great change of pace.
AD then can let LW do the scut work short yardage, NOT NECESSARILY GOALLINE, so he can keep fresh and break the big ones late in the game.

LW has more carries and a hire avg than CT, but LenDale isn't a receiver.
But I expect AD to become a quality receiver soon.

I would love to see AD and LW in the backfield.

Or just draft a guy or promote one of the guys you've been developing.
Seriously, teams that have success don't run around signing a bunch of FA's.
They typically draft well, develop thier talent, and if they can't fill a spot that way, then go out and get a FA.


My guess is that this staff will look to resign Chester if they are able, look to thier bench, look to the draft, and if they aren't happy with any of those efforts, sign a mid tier guy.

I totally agree in developing and not hitting the FA market for a backup position.

But if it's a choice to pay CT starter $$$ or get LW, I'm for getting LW.
CT is good but he's not a complement to AD, he's a replacement.
NOTE: I'm assuming that AD's receiving and blocking improve to be a quality 3rd down back.

How much would we use a LW kindof back?

Lets not forget, the guy they put in for situations like that is a H-back/TE kindof cat that can catch, run, block etc.

You yourself said LW doesn't fit that bill (can't catch).

Still say that is what they were trying to make Mills into.
To bad he didn't work out.


LW is a change of pace guy, not just a 3rd down back.
That's why I said AD would carry that load for the most part.
LW is a pounder that pushes the pile and punishes the D.
He can come in on any down and have a good chance of getting 4yds.
This year LW has had one TD so far (last year 15), here's the play by play:

1-10-NYJ 14 (11:55) 25-L.White right end to NYJ 10 for 4 yards (57-B.Scott).
2-6-NYJ 10 (11:22) 25-L.White left guard to NYJ 7 for 3 yards (52-D.Harris).
3-3-NYJ 7 (10:45) 25-L.White left tackle to NYJ 3 for 4 yards (57-B.Scott, 21-D.Lowery).
1-3-NYJ 3 (10:08) 25-L.White left tackle to NYJ 5 for -2 yards (36-J.Leonhard).
2-5-NYJ 5 (9:31) 25-L.White left tackle for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

The D knew it was coming and couldn't stop it.

Pounder!
He's averaging 3.5, but his longest is only 11yds.
Doesn't have the 50yds like AD to boost the losses up for his avg.
Not that I'm knocking AD, you need a home run guy, but you need a pounder too.

marstc09
11-12-2009, 01:17 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Vikings are his best chance to win a Super Bowl. He would be stupid to leave if that is his goal.

Good point, however, do you really think his goal will be to win a SB or to make sure his family is set?
I kindof lean towards that last.


CT will be looking for one last big contract.
Unfortunately, I believe that contract will be higher than what the Vikes will offer, if they offer anything at all.


Family is set?! I always love that one. *Leaves to check his bank account*

snowinapril
11-12-2009, 01:20 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"Sajid28" wrote:


"snowinapril" wrote:


Noooooooooooo!



Okay, it is just speculation.
We should have got something for him if we weren't going to try and resign him.
Should have traded for Betts and a draft pick or something like that before the trade deadline went by.

The best way to get him to stay is to win the Bowl.


If he still feels he needs to make a name for himself, have at it CT, make your name.


man id want this guy to retire a Vike. But it is a business and I'm sure Dan Snyder would give him all the money he wants. But honestly if I was Chester, I'd prob stay with Minny. Think about it, why would I want to be the backup of Clinton Portis and max win 6 games than be the backup and 3rd Down back for AP and go deep into the playoffs?
Lets not forget, this is a business.
Very few players have the luxury to be set to the point that they will opt to stay with a winning team for less money going into thier last contract.

Most are looking for thier last payday to take care of them and thiers.
CT will be doing that. He will go to the team that offers him the most money IMHO.
Nothing more nothing less.


Mar, sometimes it is easier to stay than to relocate.
Moving causes stress!

If it was close, I would stay.
Even if it wasn't close, I would still weigh all the options.

Johnson14
11-12-2009, 04:12 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"jargomcfargo" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Sajid28" wrote:


"snowinapril" wrote:


Noooooooooooo!



Okay, it is just speculation.
We should have got something for him if we weren't going to try and resign him.
Should have traded for Betts and a draft pick or something like that before the trade deadline went by.

The best way to get him to stay is to win the Bowl.


If he still feels he needs to make a name for himself, have at it CT, make your name.


man id want this guy to retire a Vike. But it is a business and I'm sure Dan Snyder would give him all the money he wants. But honestly if I was Chester, I'd prob stay with Minny. Think about it, why would I want to be the backup of Clinton Portis and max win 6 games than be the backup and 3rd Down back for AP and go deep into the playoffs?
Lets not forget, this is a business.
Very few players have the luxury to be set to the point that they will opt to stay with a winning team for less money going into thier last contract.

Most are looking for thier last payday to take care of them and thiers.
CT will be doing that. He will go to the team that offers him the most money IMHO.
Nothing more nothing less.


The Vikings will go with a younger, cheaper back. Just like they did at the fullback position.I just hope the new guy can pass block.

I love CT, but it's business. Besides, CT would like to play more. And he deserves more playing time.

When was the last time I told you that you were wise beyond your years Doc?

;)


lol.. +1
8)

midgensa
11-12-2009, 06:08 PM
"snowinapril" wrote:



"Marrdro" wrote:


"Sajid28" wrote:


"snowinapril" wrote:


Noooooooooooo!



Okay, it is just speculation.
We should have got something for him if we weren't going to try and resign him.
Should have traded for Betts and a draft pick or something like that before the trade deadline went by.

The best way to get him to stay is to win the Bowl.


If he still feels he needs to make a name for himself, have at it CT, make your name.


man id want this guy to retire a Vike. But it is a business and I'm sure Dan Snyder would give him all the money he wants. But honestly if I was Chester, I'd prob stay with Minny. Think about it, why would I want to be the backup of Clinton Portis and max win 6 games than be the backup and 3rd Down back for AP and go deep into the playoffs?
Lets not forget, this is a business.
Very few players have the luxury to be set to the point that they will opt to stay with a winning team for less money going into thier last contract.

Most are looking for thier last payday to take care of them and thiers.
CT will be doing that. He will go to the team that offers him the most money IMHO.
Nothing more nothing less.


Mar, sometimes it is easier to stay than to relocate.
Moving causes stress!

If it was close, I would stay.
Even if it wasn't close, I would still weigh all the options.

Lol ... besides ... his family is already set.

midgensa
11-12-2009, 06:09 PM
"gagarr" wrote:


Let Taylor go and use the $$$ to get Lendale White if the Titan's don't extend him and he hits the RFA market.
A big back to go with AD would be a great change of pace.
AD then can let LW do the scut work short yardage, NOT NECESSARILY GOALLINE, so he can keep fresh and break the big ones late in the game.

LW has more carries and a hire avg than CT, but LenDale isn't a receiver.
But I expect AD to become a quality receiver soon.

I would love to see AD and LW in the backfield.


I would love Lendale also. But White is NOT going to be any cheaper than CT.

ultravikingfan
11-12-2009, 06:41 PM
"Sajid28" wrote:



Charley Walters of the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports some people believe Vikings running back Chester Taylor, who can become an unrestricted free agent after the season, could end up with the Washington Redskins, who love to spend money.

http://blog.theredzone.org/ViewItem.asp?Entry=4066


Who is some people for crying out loud?

This is not even worth posting.
Just starts a shit-storm.

midgensa
11-12-2009, 06:49 PM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:


"Sajid28" wrote:



Charley Walters of the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports some people believe Vikings running back Chester Taylor, who can become an unrestricted free agent after the season, could end up with the Washington Redskins, who love to spend money.

http://blog.theredzone.org/ViewItem.asp?Entry=4066


Who is some people for crying out loud?

This is not even worth posting.
Just starts a shit-storm.

Lol ... very valid point.

But it still became a solid thread I think.

Purple Floyd
11-12-2009, 08:02 PM
He will sign with the Patriots.

nailhead77
11-12-2009, 10:54 PM
"midgensa" wrote:


"gagarr" wrote:


Let Taylor go and use the $$$ to get Lendale White if the Titan's don't extend him and he hits the RFA market.
A big back to go with AD would be a great change of pace.
AD then can let LW do the scut work short yardage, NOT NECESSARILY GOALLINE, so he can keep fresh and break the big ones late in the game.

LW has more carries and a hire avg than CT, but LenDale isn't a receiver.
But I expect AD to become a quality receiver soon.

I would love to see AD and LW in the backfield.


I would love Lendale also. But White is NOT going to be any cheaper than CT.



I dont want to see LW in purple............not a fan of him at all.

Marrdro
11-12-2009, 11:24 PM
"gagarr" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"gagarr" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"gagarr" wrote:


Let Taylor go and use the $$$ to get Lendale White if the Titan's don't extend him and he hits the RFA market.
A big back to go with AD would be a great change of pace.
AD then can let LW do the scut work short yardage, NOT NECESSARILY GOALLINE, so he can keep fresh and break the big ones late in the game.

LW has more carries and a hire avg than CT, but LenDale isn't a receiver.
But I expect AD to become a quality receiver soon.

I would love to see AD and LW in the backfield.

Or just draft a guy or promote one of the guys you've been developing.
Seriously, teams that have success don't run around signing a bunch of FA's.
They typically draft well, develop thier talent, and if they can't fill a spot that way, then go out and get a FA.


My guess is that this staff will look to resign Chester if they are able, look to thier bench, look to the draft, and if they aren't happy with any of those efforts, sign a mid tier guy.

I totally agree in developing and not hitting the FA market for a backup position.

But if it's a choice to pay CT starter $$$ or get LW, I'm for getting LW.
CT is good but he's not a complement to AD, he's a replacement.
NOTE: I'm assuming that AD's receiving and blocking improve to be a quality 3rd down back.

How much would we use a LW kindof back?

Lets not forget, the guy they put in for situations like that is a H-back/TE kindof cat that can catch, run, block etc.

You yourself said LW doesn't fit that bill (can't catch).

Still say that is what they were trying to make Mills into.
To bad he didn't work out.


LW is a change of pace guy, not just a 3rd down back.
That's why I said AD would carry that load for the most part.
LW is a pounder that pushes the pile and punishes the D.
He can come in on any down and have a good chance of getting 4yds.
This year LW has had one TD so far (last year 15), here's the play by play:

1-10-NYJ 14 (11:55) 25-L.White right end to NYJ 10 for 4 yards (57-B.Scott).
2-6-NYJ 10 (11:22) 25-L.White left guard to NYJ 7 for 3 yards (52-D.Harris).
3-3-NYJ 7 (10:45) 25-L.White left tackle to NYJ 3 for 4 yards (57-B.Scott, 21-D.Lowery).
1-3-NYJ 3 (10:08) 25-L.White left tackle to NYJ 5 for -2 yards (36-J.Leonhard).
2-5-NYJ 5 (9:31) 25-L.White left tackle for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

The D knew it was coming and couldn't stop it.

Pounder!
He's averaging 3.5, but his longest is only 11yds.
Doesn't have the 50yds like AD to boost the losses up for his avg.
Not that I'm knocking AD, you need a home run guy, but you need a pounder too.

I understand the whole "Pounder" concept.
What I don't understand is why you think we need one.
Are you looking for a scheme change?

Sajid28
11-12-2009, 11:31 PM
i dont want taylor to leave. but if he does leave id rather invest a late draft pick for him. id luv to see a guy like that oregon rb legarette blount or whatever his name is.

from the reading i did about him, he really doesnt have character issues. he did stick a guy in the face, but both sides of the story were not told. he does regret it. i heard a story about him on espn radio, that there was this one reporter/columnist who had cancer. and whenever blount would run into him (this was prior to the punch incident) he would always tell him "your always in my prayer and hope u get better." it sucks that all the bad stuff about a person are blown out of perspective but the good things are always shoved under the rug.

i_bleed_purple
11-13-2009, 12:17 AM
"Sajid28" wrote:


i dont want taylor to leave. but if he does leave id rather invest a late draft pick for him. id luv to see a guy like that oregon rb legarette blount or whatever his name is.

from the reading i did about him, he really doesnt have character issues. he did stick a guy in the face, but both sides of the story were not told. he does regret it. i heard a story about him on espn radio, that there was this one reporter/columnist who had cancer. and whenever blount would run into him (this was prior to the punch incident) he would always tell him "your always in my prayer and hope u get better." it sucks that all the bad stuff about a person are blown out of perspective but the good things are always shoved under the rug.


blount?
The same guy that is just coming off a suspension for suckerpunching someone in the face during a game?
For some reason i don't think he'd fit in on our team.

Sajid28
11-13-2009, 01:21 AM
"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


"Sajid28" wrote:


i dont want taylor to leave. but if he does leave id rather invest a late draft pick for him. id luv to see a guy like that oregon rb legarette blount or whatever his name is.

from the reading i did about him, he really doesnt have character issues. he did stick a guy in the face, but both sides of the story were not told. he does regret it. i heard a story about him on espn radio, that there was this one reporter/columnist who had cancer. and whenever blount would run into him (this was prior to the punch incident) he would always tell him "your always in my prayer and hope u get better." it sucks that all the bad stuff about a person are blown out of perspective but the good things are always shoved under the rug.


percy did.. and he had some baggage prior to drafting him.

blount?
The same guy that is just coming off a suspension for suckerpunching someone in the face during a game?
For some reason i don't think he'd fit in on our team.

i_bleed_purple
11-13-2009, 01:24 AM
"Sajid28" wrote:


"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


"Sajid28" wrote:


i dont want taylor to leave. but if he does leave id rather invest a late draft pick for him. id luv to see a guy like that oregon rb legarette blount or whatever his name is.

from the reading i did about him, he really doesnt have character issues. he did stick a guy in the face, but both sides of the story were not told. he does regret it. i heard a story about him on espn radio, that there was this one reporter/columnist who had cancer. and whenever blount would run into him (this was prior to the punch incident) he would always tell him "your always in my prayer and hope u get better." it sucks that all the bad stuff about a person are blown out of perspective but the good things are always shoved under the rug.



blount?
The same guy that is just coming off a suspension for suckerpunching someone in the face during a game?
For some reason i don't think he'd fit in on our team.


percy did.. and he had some baggage prior to drafting him.


Percy didn't suckerpunch someone.
For a RB, a position that is very easy to find someone who's "good enough" in the later rounds, I don't think we go out on a limb.
Harvin had the potential, Bount doesn't really.

gregair13
11-13-2009, 01:25 AM
"UffDaVikes" wrote:


He will sign with the Patriots.

CT isn't old and washed up yet, so he won't

V4L
11-13-2009, 05:45 AM
fuck u

snowinapril
11-24-2009, 07:41 PM
Man, they could have used him about now.
If these injuries would have happened earlier in the season, I wonder what we could have got in a trade before the deadline.

Just a thought, actually don't want him to go anywhere.